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测试用途的 20KHZ 振荡电路 - 移相

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发表于 2012-10-29 06:32:03 | |阅读模式


测试用途的 20KHZ 振荡电路 - 移相

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发表于 2012-10-30 07:29:26 |
In May 1987, the Radio Magazine has a signal generator. The AF portion of it is actually very good. Check it and simulate it before you actually build one. The original design uses bjt but a jfet greatly simplifies the design.
     
 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-30 06:51:05 |
epawp 发表于 2012-10-28 17:27
楼主仅仅是仿真吧。如果是真的要做个实用的,建议您采用小功率的功放IC或者是运放,原因有:
1)三节RC等值 ...





       多谢!


      做来玩的, 三极管太多了。

     
发表于 2012-10-30 17:35:19 |
我在电子报上见过一个类似电路,我曾经实验做50hz振荡,结果是以失败而告终。
     
 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-31 09:26:48 |
本帖最后由 e3po 于 2012-10-30 18:20 编辑
epawp 发表于 2012-10-28 17:27
楼主仅仅是仿真吧。如果是真的要做个实用的,建议您采用小功率的功放IC或者是运放,原因有:
1)三节RC等值 ...





             很奇怪的现象, 滞后型的反而谐波很多 (-20dB 以上)。


   



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           电路按照顶楼的搭建, 谐波不多 (-20dB 以下)。



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发表于 2012-10-29 09:27:53 |
楼主仅仅是仿真吧。如果是真的要做个实用的,建议您采用小功率的功放IC或者是运放,原因有:
1)三节RC等值移相电路有两种,超前和滞后,超前的高次谐波比滞后的要大些;
2)使用三极管对移相网络会有负载效应,将影响振荡频率,要想微调频率比较困难,所以用运放或功放IC(也属于运放范围),其输入阻抗比较大,输出阻抗比较小,影响会很小;
3)运放的增益比三极管要大,而且可调整,比起您的电路用射随器做输出要好,该电路的输出幅度将会很小;
4)其实用文氏桥很好的,其选频特性比移相的要好,衰减系数也只有三分之一,加个稳幅就可以。
     
 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-31 12:31:37 |
millwood 发表于 2012-10-29 15:29
In May 1987, the Radio Magazine has a signal generator. The AF portion of it is actually very good.  ...




        "Ham Radio" or just "Radio"


        Can't find it from the web.
发表于 2012-11-8 22:09:28 |
Sorry, here is the one, from the chinese Radio magazine ("Wireless"?).

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Hope it helps.
发表于 2012-11-8 22:11:34 |
In case you need, here is the schmatic for heathkit ig5280.

sig gen heathkit ig5280.PNG

The AF portion actually is hard to get to work.
     
 楼主| 发表于 2012-11-9 12:13:42 |
millwood 发表于 2012-11-8 06:09
Sorry, here is the one, from the chinese Radio magazine ("Wireless"?).



Thanks a lot!



     
 楼主| 发表于 2012-11-9 12:16:07 |
本帖最后由 e3po 于 2012-11-10 12:38 编辑
millwood 发表于 2012-11-8 06:11
In case you need, here is the schmatic for heathkit ig5280.




Thanks!!   I'll try that later.



now I have this problem,  couldn't get a Wien Bridge Oscillator to produce sine wave:

I think I must miss some very important thing but I 'm too dumb to tell.




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 楼主| 发表于 2012-11-10 12:13:05 |
本帖最后由 e3po 于 2012-11-10 12:35 编辑

on LTspice it doesn't oscillate,  scratching my head.




update: it'does.   have to wait untill 66th mS.



Patience, Patience, Patience





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发表于 2012-11-10 07:13:14 |
Those guys need 3+ gain to work. so I would cut out R11 and increase R4 to 2.2k (<4.7k/2).

Hope it helps.
发表于 2012-11-10 07:19:10 |
That did work.

Also, try to use 5484 instead.
发表于 2012-11-10 20:34:27 |
next time, try a simple rail version.

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